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« Reply #15 on: October 22, 2008, 11:55:34 AM »

http://hypertextbook.com/facts/1999/SimonFung.shtml
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« Reply #16 on: October 22, 2008, 12:16:36 PM »

http://hypertextbook.com/facts/1999/SimonFung.shtml

That doesn't really answer it.

It wouldn't have been hot in the refrigerator guys.  He was not in the epicenter of the explosion.  It's also a flash temperature and would only be really hot for a second or 2.  Inside a refrigerator would actually the perfect place unless you have a lead lined basement to hide in.
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« Reply #17 on: October 22, 2008, 01:14:08 PM »


It wouldn't have been hot in the refrigerator guys.  He was not in the epicenter of the explosion.  It's also a flash temperature and would only be really hot for a second or 2.  Inside a refrigerator would actually the perfect place unless you have a lead lined basement to hide in.

Ok, so yeah, apparently if he was close enough to get hot, he'd be dead in a million other ways.  However, from what I've read, such a refrigerator doesn't offer enough thickness to block out the gamma rays.  Along with fallout, you'd pretty much be growing a 3rd arm regardless.
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« Reply #18 on: October 22, 2008, 02:13:02 PM »

Let us assume for the moment that being inside a lead lined refrigerator is sufficient in the eyes of physics and biology to walk away unharmed as he did in the movie.  Here is the problem: manufacturing.  Refrigerators, even a lead lined one, are designed to remove heat from the inside compartment.  Motors, hoses, vents, and other such devices are needed to perform these tasks.  Refrigerators are not air tight.  A refrigerator is nothing but a giant sink in energy use, you pay twice the amount of energy to keep food cool because you are fighting several laws of physics.  In order for our fridge to in fact protect the hero it cannot have openings for radiation or heat to seep into, but that violates what a refrigerator is manufactured to do.

That is one magical refrigerator.
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« Reply #19 on: October 22, 2008, 02:39:07 PM »

A refrigerator can be air tight when closed, it's the thermal contacts with the evaporator and condenser units inside and outside that makes the fridge cold.  If all the external parts are also lead-lined, and if that lead is enough to shield the radiation, then the only issue is the heat itself.  The walls of the fridge are probably air filled like a thermos, and since air is a poor conductor of heat, it would makes thermal conductivity of the fridge walls low.  Since the fridge was a mock fridge for that mock town, then the compressor pipes might have also been filled with just air so it may have not conducted enough heat into the fridge during the blast.  Also, from memory, Indy was burried a bit after the blast.  The burying may have insulated the heat further.
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« Reply #20 on: October 22, 2008, 02:40:43 PM »

I gotta say, at this point the length of this conversation is way out of proportion to my interest in it.
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« Reply #21 on: October 22, 2008, 05:43:44 PM »

A refrigerator can be air tight when closed, it's the thermal contacts with the evaporator and condenser units inside and outside that makes the fridge cold.  If all the external parts are also lead-lined, and if that lead is enough to shield the radiation, then the only issue is the heat itself.  The walls of the fridge are probably air filled like a thermos, and since air is a poor conductor of heat, it would makes thermal conductivity of the fridge walls low.  Since the fridge was a mock fridge for that mock town, then the compressor pipes might have also been filled with just air so it may have not conducted enough heat into the fridge during the blast.  Also, from memory, Indy was burried a bit after the blast.  The burying may have insulated the heat further.

Air tight =/= radiation proof.  The fridge is going to have way too many spots where lead doesn't even cover let alone be thick enough to stop the radiation.  What is this the 50s?  Should I cover my head and hide under my desk to stay safe ?
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« Reply #22 on: October 23, 2008, 12:05:42 PM »

A refrigerator can be air tight when closed, it's the thermal contacts with the evaporator and condenser units inside and outside that makes the fridge cold.  If all the external parts are also lead-lined, and if that lead is enough to shield the radiation, then the only issue is the heat itself.  The walls of the fridge are probably air filled like a thermos, and since air is a poor conductor of heat, it would makes thermal conductivity of the fridge walls low.  Since the fridge was a mock fridge for that mock town, then the compressor pipes might have also been filled with just air so it may have not conducted enough heat into the fridge during the blast.  Also, from memory, Indy was burried a bit after the blast.  The burying may have insulated the heat further.

Air tight =/= radiation proof.  The fridge is going to have way too many spots where lead doesn't even cover let alone be thick enough to stop the radiation.  What is this the 50s?  Should I cover my head and hide under my desk to stay safe ?

That's true that air tight =/= radiation proof but that's why I made a point about being lead lined.  If the whole thing was lined with lead such that it pretty much forms a closed lead shell, including condenser pipes and all, and if the lead were thick enough to ward away the radiation then I could kinda see it being enough to save Indy.
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« Reply #23 on: October 23, 2008, 01:47:29 PM »

A refrigerator can be air tight when closed, it's the thermal contacts with the evaporator and condenser units inside and outside that makes the fridge cold.  If all the external parts are also lead-lined, and if that lead is enough to shield the radiation, then the only issue is the heat itself.  The walls of the fridge are probably air filled like a thermos, and since air is a poor conductor of heat, it would makes thermal conductivity of the fridge walls low.  Since the fridge was a mock fridge for that mock town, then the compressor pipes might have also been filled with just air so it may have not conducted enough heat into the fridge during the blast.  Also, from memory, Indy was burried a bit after the blast.  The burying may have insulated the heat further.

Air tight =/= radiation proof.  The fridge is going to have way too many spots where lead doesn't even cover let alone be thick enough to stop the radiation.  What is this the 50s?  Should I cover my head and hide under my desk to stay safe ?

That's true that air tight =/= radiation proof but that's why I made a point about being lead lined.  If the whole thing was lined with lead such that it pretty much forms a closed lead shell, including condenser pipes and all, and if the lead were thick enough to ward away the radiation then I could kinda see it being enough to save Indy.

Which begs the question... why the fuck would anyone design a refrigerator in such a fashion?
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« Reply #24 on: October 23, 2008, 02:02:19 PM »

The refrigerator would only have to be shielded on the side facing the detonation.  Fallout would not be an issue unless the wind blew it towards him. 

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« Reply #25 on: October 23, 2008, 07:35:52 PM »

Its no more ridiculous than any other Indiana Jones movie where an Adventurer with a whip beats an entire division of Nazi special forces.

The script sucked in every other aspect.
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